Listen closely, everyone.

"JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7" (jayzayeighty) 01/05/2015 at 20:30 • Filed to: Fp

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This guy has a 911 and 458, and he's about to tell us about how he actually shifts gears in the Z06 he just ordered with a clutch pedal! So now I guess I can call manuals cool again because he seemingly approved of them. Or maybe just in this case. I'll have to find out. His username is Mr12C, could it be true?

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 20:36

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Is that his full username or the hidden one behind the long one?

Cause there is a guy named Mr 458 who used to have a 12C but now has a 458 and 911. I bet it's the same guy but you're referring to his hidden username.

GeorgeyBoy > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 20:37

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http://mr12c.kinja.com/asshole-spits-…

Damn why do people spit on stuff.

macanamera > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 20:39

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It is true. He also told me he has a 918 on order. He knows his stuff, and he's a pretty nice guy.

macanamera > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:39

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same fella

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:39

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He's the one who had a deposit on a 918 but back out right?

[Depression intensifies]

PushToStart > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:40

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his Kinja url is mr 12c but his username when he comments is Mr 458

Same guy.

Manuél Ferrari > macanamera 01/05/2015 at 20:40

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that's what i figured

would be a crazy coincidence if it was someone else

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:41

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You are quite right, Kinja is Mr 12C and screen name is Mr 458. I don't know the guy but seems like so many self important posts. I'm in a crappy mood as usual so I hope that those I don't aggravate excuse the pedantry. I'm just off several youtube shit flinging arguments as well.

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 01/05/2015 at 20:41

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i had not heard about the 918 deposit

he only comments on FP so hard to keep track of him

Manuél Ferrari > PushToStart 01/05/2015 at 20:42

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that was my guess

funny how cause of kinja you can see original username

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 20:43

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you should get on his case for having a non-Manuél 911

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:44

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He commented on having a deposit on one. No one believed him until he posted the photos of the car he was supposed to be buying (it was in a studio for buyers or something like that, something you can't just pull off GIS)

A little while after that, he posted about not wanting it anymore and getting the deposit back. This was more than a year ago, but the post itself is somewhere in jalopnik's 918 articles.

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 01/05/2015 at 20:48

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If he could afford it and backed out then he is not a true Jalop hero

Anyone who can afford the 918/P1/FerrariSquared should buy one. Cause why not?

44444444444 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:51

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If I was gonna DD a 911 I'd rather have a PDK. Traffic sucks.

PS9 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:54

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I can think of one good reason;

None of today's hypercars will give you Manuél. It's dual clutch flappy paddle or nothing. Buying one contributes significantly to the bottom line of each company; even to a multibillion dollar organization, a million dollar purchase from one customer is non-trivial. There's no way to purchase one without significantly contributing to the destruction of Manuél on a scale the ordinary consumer could not access or imagine. Therefore; if you support Manuél, you cannot buy one of the three hypercars, because to do so is to richly reward those would are fighting hard to deny him.

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:56

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Haha I should! More importantly, non-Manuél Ferrari ;)

But hey it's his money. No annoyance to insignificant me until subtle narcissism found in posts like this. Turns everything into a wealth worship issue. A rare escape from hyper materialism closed due to this kind of thing. The car community as a whole fosters such attitudes due to the hobby's expensive nature. Jalopnik did until the FP became incessant whining about the love of cheap classics, economical practicality with character (diesel wagons), and affordable fun (miatas)!

Manuél Ferrari > 44444444444 01/05/2015 at 20:57

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I know, I know. I am guilty myself. I bought a DCT E90 M3 cause traffic was sucking. Then I moved closer to work and now I hate my decision. Every day I wake up and wish it was Manuél ;(

Axial > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 20:57

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If you want to see huge sets of self-important posts, look up Evan McM. Mr.458, on the other hand, is a pretty chill dude in the comments and actually owns what he preaches.

Manuél Ferrari > PS9 01/05/2015 at 20:58

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This is true

Given my quest to bring back Manuél I can't support new hypercars either

I hadn't actually thought throw the ramifications of buying a new hypercar because there is no way I could afford one so I don't actually think about them much

It would be better to buy an F40 or McLaren F1

44444444444 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 20:58

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Unfortunately I can't drive a manual well enough on big hills with lights to drive my R to school just yet. Hopefully this spring.

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 21:01

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Brown diesel manual Ferrari wagons for everybody!

OMG I wish the 458 wasn't DCT only. I want a Manuél 458 so badly.

Manuél Ferrari > 44444444444 01/05/2015 at 21:02

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don't worry you'll get good at that!

it will become second nature

44444444444 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 21:04

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Thats what I'm waiting for lol. I can fly an airplane without being able to see outside the cockpit across the country but I'm bested by 3 pedals? It annoys me.

Manuél Ferrari > 44444444444 01/05/2015 at 21:07

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LOL. The silly car can't keep you back for long then. You have way more skills than the average person!

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 21:11

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It would be a cool car. Then again, there are Manuél 599s and 430s to choose from. If you'd walked into a Ferrari dealership and tried to buy a manual 430 or 599, you would have been met by serious opposition, complex fabrications, and financial advantages to persuade you against buying a 3 pedal car. If I had the money, I'd be glad to have the chance to buy one of those considering how the odds were against them!

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 21:16

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F430s: correct

599: very difficult. only 33 made it to the US! and from what i've read ferrari didn't bother making the manuel work properly in that car

the F430 manuel is sublime though

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > GeorgeyBoy 01/05/2015 at 21:27

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That is a rude thing to do, but it's not a them vs. us thing.

"So as you can see, some supercar owners are totally normal, and treat their cars like cars, and yet still get their cars messed with. Not cool."

Unless somehow my grandmother's rav4, paint keyed beyond repair, was a supercar without me having realized it. Maybe if it was, there would've been a glob of saliva and no more damage. Essentially, his car is treated the same as others' cars and as a $300,000 car it shouldn't be.

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 21:43

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I've heard that about the 599. I still wouldn't really care, though—people trash the Doug Nash 4+3 but it's been more fun than any silky smooth 6 speed for me. I'm only kidding, though, as the 599's Manuel issues stem from poor execution rather than quirkiness. And the 7MT just went in for a clutch today, too. I read a cool article in Automobile about one of the last manual 599s, but I still would have the 430 if it's as well sorted as they say compared to the 599. So many great cars for the price/running costs of one F430, though!

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 21:49

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arghh you're making me feel bad!

i met the owner of a manuel 599 on fchat and he gave me first dibs before listing it but i didn't want to sell all the cars to get it!

i should have done it...

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 22:01

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Whoa, really? I mean, you have three cars with very different characters instead. A screaming V8 and impressive DCT, an SMG that kicks you in the back to remind you that it's not an auto for old men mated to a screaming iron block I6 putting out tons and tons of power, and a screaming, rear mounted flat six mated to a 6 manuel! Variety vs. exclusivity, I wouldn't regret it. Although that 599 might really be wor... ok I'll stop. I will. Buy a W123 300TD con manuel for the commute, a '93 Miata for weekend cruising, and a crate LS3 T56 swapped '84 Corvette Z51 for taking down 458s at track days! Living an automotive dream for the price of a half-dead 993!

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/05/2015 at 23:35

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thank you. valiant effort to make me feel better. but i still wish i had the 599 and any cheap beater to go along with it, haha

599 6MT. mmm so nice

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari 01/05/2015 at 23:58

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The 599 along with a nice LS400 or something comparable for commuting (because Ferrari ownership is too stressful to be worrying about dings and repairs on your daily) would be pretty ideal. Still, I doubt that it'd be as fun after a while. You have quite a trio. I'm trying to coordinate one myself; first up is a lot of work on the C4 for me which is happening. Then I'm trying to get a deal done on my dad's Sebring, then get a Saab turbo Manuél checked out. If that goes well, it will replace that horrid Chrysler. From there, I will attempt to get the owner of an FD RX7 turbo Manuél that sits around my neighborhood to sell with a note. If they get back with a more-than-reasonable offer (sub-17,500?) I might be able to pry the mundane slushbox Miata from my dad and replace it with the RX7. So much to do, but picturing those 3 cheap cars lined up alongside each other is motivating. A swede, a wankel, and an 80s Ferrari killer! I dare a 928 or 308 to pull up next to me at a stoplight. I will make V6 Camry drivers cry.

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/06/2015 at 00:02

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Isn't it funny how much time we spend thinking about musical cars? Dat RX7 sounds interesting!

I keep thinking about reconfiguring the rides. I am getting bored of the DCT in the E90. But I like the car. Maybe I should sell it and get a Manuél E90. A blue one

JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 > Manuél Ferrari 01/06/2015 at 00:15

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Yeah, it really is. I'm planning builds for ~7 years from now! The RX-7 will take time; the saab is far more realistic. I can go a long way with a 2.0 9000—winter capability and mid-30s mpg—and the C4. Eventually I'll have the chance to pick up the E89 and there's plenty to do with that. I wrote a note for the RX7 owner today, and I'll put it under the windshield tomorrow. Blue E90 with 3 pedals sounds fantastic! The last great M car. So many people driving around in F80s and M4s, such a diesel-y sound. If you have a short commute a 6 speed sounds fun!

Manuél Ferrari > JayZAyEighty thinks C4+3=C7 01/06/2015 at 00:26

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yes boo to the diesel sound of the new cars! diesel on idle, farts while driving

i used to have a long commute. that's why i bought the damn DCT. now i live 5 miles from work so DCT is so boring!